We presented, last month, the solution automation Lidl Home. Based on the ZigBee 3.0 protocol, the famous discounter's offer did not fail to arouse our interest as the prices in neighboring countries are so attractive. Already marketed in Switzerland and Belgium, SilverCrest connected objects will arrive on the French shelves of the discounter from February 1, 2021. Good news for all those wishing to get started in the connected home without leaving an arm ...
Lidl democratizes home automation
This time, for sure, Lidl will offer its range of motion detectors, opening sensors, connected sockets, and other connected LED bulbs or ribbons!
With very aggressive pricing, the SilverCrest home automation gateway being offered at only € 19.99, the excellent idea of the brand is undoubtedly to have opted for ZigBee, a real home automation protocol with many advantages, foremost of which we obviously think of its operation locally and therefore without an Internet connection.
Indeed, where its competitors have directly entered the WiFi, which is better known to the general public, Lidl has in our opinion made a wise choice by offering a real home automation solution at a low price. Using the ZigBee in its latest version 3.0, the solution Smart Home will also be open and able to accommodate connected objects from other brands such as Philips Hue, Osram or IKEA. And, of course, the products will be compatible with voice assistants Amazon Alexa et Google Assistant.
Of course, Lidl will also offer a wide range of connected lighting under its Livarno Lux and Melinera brands at unbeatable prices since they are offered. between 9.99 € and 12.99 €. Of Livarno Lux ® starter kits including three LED bulbs, a remote control and the essentials SilverCrest Gateway will also be available less than 50 €. Suffice to say that many of you run the risk of rushing into the brand's 1500 French stores from February 1 ...
Hello, will these bulbs be compatible with the Hue Bridge and / or another Zigbee Bridge (MOES in my case). Thank you.
Hello,
With the Hue bridge, nothing is certain, but with a MOES bridge yes because it is obviously also Tuya / Smart Life. 😉
Hi, will the sockets allow the consumption statement?
Hi ! A priori no, but we have not yet had the chance to see them in real life… 😉
to date no information regarding the compatibility with Alexa.........
When it comes to Tuya material, just use the eponymous application or Smart Life. By doing some research, we also found very concrete clues about the Lidl Home skill as we explained in our first article on Lidl Home,
Hello. Like you, I am passionate about home automation and Alexa : )
I have been looking for a while to change our existing lighting installation (new, so no neutral on the switches), and I have read a lot of your articles.
Here is my problem. Today, we have lighting with simple switches, others with back and forth, and another as a remote switch.
I had thought at the beginning to go through Philips Hue (which offers a switch that does not plug in, with a square on which to put it via a magnet so it seems to replace the switches, but the price ... € 19,99 the switch c just not possible).
In short, we were counting on a Lidl or Ikea-type solution, but we are trying to find out if wireless switches exist cheaper than Philips Hue, but of the same type (which could be fixed to the wall instead of a switch. existing, without having to connect the wires, a sort of remote control). And of course, compatible with Lidl and / or Ikea solutions.
Thanks in advance 🙂
Small add on to my previous comment. At Ikea, I saw this (https://www.ikea.com/fr/fr/p/tradfri-kit-variation-dintensite-10435926/) but the size of the device and the fact that it does not fit on the wall like a switch is a bit of a problem for us. Otherwise level value for money it seems great. Then you will have to validate the compatibility Alexa but it seems to me that Ikea is compatible
Hello Cedric,
The choice of ZigBee is wise, but switches are indeed a problem. Whether it's Hue dimmers or Friends of Hue switches, they're still very expensive and, unfortunately, not even all compatible with each other. Fortunately, the ZigBee Alliance is embarking on a path of interoperability, so we should see more open solutions soon. Likewise, the rise of ZigBee is starting to pull prices down, Lidl is proof of this. Aqara also offers inexpensive solutions, but they are still a bit locked into their own ecosystem with Xiaomi which lacks ZigBee lighting richness.
In short, it's hard to tell you what to choose, we are also looking ... But we are on the lookout for the slightest novelty to test. 😉
Good end of the day 🙂
Gateway compatible with sonoff? Yes or no thanks
No, it's Tuya.
Morning. Can we control with Alexa?
Hello,
It's Tuya so yes, via Smart Life or Tuya Smart no problem, but no skills for the Lidl Home app yet. 😉
Either way, we recommend going through Smart Life.
Good night
Hello, can we connect the gateway to the internet in Sim4G because I don't have a wired internet connection in this studio?
Thank you
Hello,
I tried to go through Smart Life or Tuya and the gateway is not recognized.
Hello,
Yes, through a router, not directly. 🙂
I answer myself.
Ok to add it on Tuya or Smart Life (you have to think about dissociating before)
On the other hand, impossible after making it work with Alexa, he can't find it.
When we look in the parameters of the object (rgb bulb for my case) in the Tuya app or Smart Life, it is only written "Google assistant" ...
Even going through tuya, no control alexa for my part.
me too the paserelle not detected
Hello, is there a Skills for Alexa because I can do everything with it but no way to put color apart from the different shades of white.
hi, I took the plunge today, the bridge plus light bulbs! I was already sure smart life, everything is recognized unfortunately impossible to see them in the app Alexa, what am I missing?
Thank you in advance for your answers
Same problem that Yoan I can't find it in smart life do you have a tutorial? thank you
Hello with Smart life the gateway is recognized as well as a light bulb on the other hand Alexa does not recognize anything
Hi everybody !
Obviously, the enthusiasm is great given the number of comments. Like you, we went to Lidl this afternoon (and we couldn't even take it all because it was already empty!), We will give you our feedback and answer your questions as soon as possible, but please know that our first tests show that:
1- The gateway works under Tuya without problem,
2- The bulbs are Philips Hue compatible,
3- Everything works well with Alexa and Google Home.
Good night !
Good evening
can you explain the manipulation for alexa please?
please
Hello, to create an interaction with alexa you have to create a scenario in tuya /Smart life. The scenario will be recognized in Alexa.
Hello everyone, modest review of the Led Lidl Home connect VS Phillips Hue Strip. (I'm not a pro)
I could not make the bulbs, there was not one left, not the radiator, no sockets… In short, as usual, Lidl does not ensure stocks and plays Apple, too bad.
Both connected to the Hue bridge (to send exactly the same power and color signal)
So :
The summary for those in a hurry (the brightness was measured with a device, not with the naked eye!)
Brightness:
Not Photo: On cold whites: The Lidl is twice as efficient in lumens!
On warm white: winning Lidl (at least 50% +)
On the colors: Phillips is almost 2 times brighter
Colorimetric rendering:
Very variable depending on the model!
Reds: Best on Phillips
The Roses: Large lead for Phillips (Lidl is really struggling with the Rose, we remain almost on purple)
Les Violets: Big lead for Lidl (This is when you realize that Phillips can't do purple on his strip, it's always pink….)
The blues: Difficult to decide (it will depend on the blues)
The Greens: It depends on the green you are looking for, my partner and I are divided ^^ I find the Phillips greener, she thinks it's the Lidl
Les Jaunes: There is the cataclysm on the Lidl side! He does not know how to make yellow. (Personally, I don't care, I don't like this color): Lidl KO by package
Serial connection on a single power supply: Not tested with Phillips. With Lidl: 30% loss of luminosity per 2M strip: 1 strip 2500 lum, with 2 strips: 1700
Thanks for the feedback, but how do you manage to Alexa because like many everything is recognized in smart life but nothing in Alexa
Bonsoir
Is it possible to pair the lidl bridge with a philips HUE light bulb or motion detector?
Thank you
Bought today, I spent part of my afternoon trying to configure the lidl home gateway. I dropped,. Unable to register. The software requests registration with an email address and must send you a code on this address that you must enter to continue with the installation. Only here you have one minute to enter this code but the email which is sent to you arrives well after this delay or does not arrive at all. So yes the product may seem interesting if the software you have to download worked.
Hello, can give us the detailed procedure to make everything work with alexa?
After a few tests:
- gateway added under Tuya ok
- bulb added under alexa ok but colorless
- bulb under tuya ok color management ok but not found under alexa.
for me, smart life and tuya work very well (gateway + 6 led bulb)
for me, smart life and tuya work very well (gateway + 6 led bulb)
3- Everything works well with Alexa ??
Based on Lidl Germany customer service and technical support atAmazon, it is currently not possible to make it work with Alexa.
All the elements have been recognized on my Zigbee gateway (not Lidl), they do not appear in Alexa, by creating manual scenarios in Tuya or Smartlife, it goes back well in Alexa, obviously it is less flexible….
Hello, you have to create a scenario in Smart Life, then we find it in Alexa
Indeed, Tuya skills are quite limited at the ZigBee level in the application. Alexa...
Same for us! 🙂
Yes, everything works very well, provided you know how to use it… The technique is to bring up scenes that simply do not use the Lidl bridge but those integrated in certain Echo speakers. It is also possible to use the Philips bridge and there it is even easier!
Small question, when you connected the bulbs directly under alexa does any color work for you? for me it is recognized but does not work.
Hello,
Thank you for this feedback! 🙂
Same thing for us, the shelves were already empty yesterday at 16 p.m., but we found the Livarno Lux GU10 tested this morning, the E14 and the famous ledstrip that we have not yet installed takes time ... Overall, I have the impression that we have the same feeling: very good products on the whites, but it peaches color level or Philips Hue remains undoubtedly master! 😉
Have a good day
Hello,
This is it, this is a known "problem" of Tuya bridges on Alexa😉 😉
Hello,
We are talking about this in our GU10 test this morning and will be going into more detail in the coming days. 🙂
We confirm this problem, we are investigating about it… 😉
The same ! 😉
Hello,
Try with the Tuya app, it's actually the same as Lidl Home, but it visibly works better. 😉
Hello, thank you for the site and for the comments. 2 small remarks
1- Impossible to find E27 bulbs in 5 or 6 LIDL in the Paris region. Complicated.
2- Are there gateways at a lower cost than the Lidl gateway? Conbee or zigate are much more expensive there is the xiaomi which is 19 € on bangood
Hello,
1- We visited two stores in the South-West and the same observation: more than E27!
2- If you are using Jeedom, this ZigBee dongle at Domadoo is interesting because very soon natively compatible. The Xiaomi and Aqara gateways are very closed and require a key from the device, so it's complicated outside the Xiaomi Home ecosystem. Otherwise, you can turn to Tuya hubs such as Zemi'ssmart tested here.
Have a good day
Hello Michael,
We will explain everything in the coming hours and days through various tests… 😉
Good afternoon 🙂
Is the gateway required to use devices of this brand?
Not necessarily if you have a Tuya, Philips Hue or ZigBee dongle. To a lesser extent, it also works with hubs Amazon Echo, except thatAlexa doesn't want to handle colors just yet (though they appear fine). 🙂
The scenarios are fine in Alexia but the voice commands Alexia does not understand / interpret them correctly.
2 commands: "living room on", "living room off".
Alexia finds several living room objects, the object does not have the command, ...
change of name of commands:
"One" and "two"
Alexa execute scene (or scenario) command name… it doesn't work.
I installed the Tuya skills and Smart Life and I have an Echo Dot Gen3 (the round flat model) and I use the SilverCrest gateway (Lidl) and a 2P + E socket (= switch with 2 on / off control).
Under Android, I cannot connect to the SilverCrest (Lidl) gateway with the apk " Smart Life ”, on the other hand with the apk“ TuyaSmart " it's good. Why … ?
If anyone can tell me how to make thatAlexa understand and correctly execute voice commands. It will be welcome.
I am considering purchasing the new “premium” Echo Dot Gen4 which has an integrated Zigbee hub.
Will Lidl products (socket, lamps, etc.) be directly recognized by the Echo Dot Gen4?
The commands described in the Skills “Tuya Smart »(Lights: * Alexa, turn on the living room, * Alexa, turn off the living room, Sockets: * Alexa, light my plug * Alexa, turn off my socket) will they really be operational?
and that without going through the scenario?
A lot of questions …
Thank you in advance for your help and advice.
Best regards.
Hello,
For the scenes, you need the simplest possible naming, if you want to make it a bit more complex or if it doesn't work, the ideal is to create a routine calling the scene. Granted, it's still one more step, but it works great.
Why with Tuya Smart and not Smart Life? We could not tell you, the answer is at Tuya ... 😉
Echo Dot 4 does not have a ZigBee bridge, Echo 4 yes on the other hand, but there again as you will be able to see it in each of our Lidl / Livarno Lux tests, the operation still leaves a lot to be desired. If, for the sockets, there is no problem, the bulbs are well recognized but only manage the whites and not the colors. Partial compatibility therefore, probably linked to ongoing updates at Amazon,
Eventually, yes, everything should work. As we explained in another article, a skill Alexa is in the course of "manufacture" but we unfortunately have no date to give to date.
Have a good day
Hello, I have a google home I would like to know if a gateway is absolutely necessary to be able to use the connected lidl device.
thank you in advance
Here is the official position of Lidl:
[email protected]
Mer 03/02/2021 13:51
Dear Mr,
Sadly, Alexa is not compatible with the Lidl product Smart Home .
The ZigBee 3.0 radio standard enables communication between individual objects and between these objects and a gateway. Even though devices that use ZigBee 3.0 standard can fundamentally communicate with each other, we cannot guarantee that a communication between LIDL Home items and other items is always working fully, a combination of different devices and software Smart Home may limit the functionality of individual items. Some articles cannot be integrated at all due to missing functionality. Due to the large number of suppliers and items, we cannot guarantee general compatibility of third-party items with the LIDL HOME app and LIDL items. Smart Home. Likewise, the function of the LIDL elements Smart Home may be limited when integrating into other systems or when using an application other than the LIDL HOME application.
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The problem is well summarized ... 😉
Hello,
Yes, absolutely, but Lidl's will do just fine. 😉
Good night
I bought the led tape and it is fully functional with Alexa via a dot echo.
brightness, choice of colors, everything works in my app Alexa without going through tuya ...
Well, that's great news then! With which ZigBee bridge?
with my Philips Hue gateway
I added it and Alexa recognized it directly in the app
Hi
I have a question that has not yet been asked:
Can the lidl gateway work with Xiaomi mijia (door opening) sensors and Xiaomi mijia camera.
Thank you in advance.
Hello . New kid in the home automation world, I rushed to the lidl equipment, so I have the gateway, 3 sockets, 3 lamps. Everything works fine, I am now looking for a simple switch model compatible with this material and without neutral. If possible affordable.
Could brands or models recommend me.
Cdt
Dominica
Hello Dominique,
We tested more Zemi modelsmart without neutral here et leaves. They exist in a simple version. 😉
Have a nice week end.
Hello, is it possible to pair the Lidl gateway with roller blinds, wireless / battery operated, Ikea
and program automatic openings and closings?
thank you for your reply, jp
Hello,
No, the Xiaomi sensors are not compatible, nor the camera which works over Wi-Fi. 😉
Hello,
A priori no, the two ecosystems do not seem compatible for the time being ...
Hello, For information, the lidl wifi radiator is not currently compatible with Alexa but with google it's ok.
It only works in wifi and does not require any bridge but works with the ldl app.
Hi,
Indeed, but the intermediary is played once more on the stages… Create a scenario Tuya / Smart Life, ask Alexa detect the scenes, and voila! 😉
Hello, the Lidl gateway is correctly installed but as soon as I try to put the LEDs on, nothing happens, impossible to recognize them… must the gateway be close? Thanks for your help
Hello,
It is normally very fast, you have to go to your gateway in the application and perform the pairing from it.
Good luck 😉
I have just ordered the model of the second link, upon receipt, I will confirm if it works with the lidl gateway and can be controlled from my smartphone because the goal is to be able to control the lighting of my projection room while remaining seated.
I would then have another question, because the ultimate goal is that when I turn on the projo, the whole system is activated, that the ceiling light gradually dims like in a cinema, that certain blue diode around the screen lights up 1 to 2 minutes before it also to switch off gradually to take full advantage of the screening session
Hello being in the same case as you, I opted to forget the switches and I went through connected bulbs. Super simple, fast and flexible. And if guests don't understand how it works, turning off and on with the traditional switch works too. Maybe you have already thought about it but I was pleasantly surprised by this plan B.
Good luck to you 🙂
Hello I understood that you need a box for internet access (ethernet connection) but if in the room that I have I only consider access by a Sim card that you advise me as material and is this feasible?
Thank you for your answers
Hello,
In this case, you need a 4G router… 🙂
Have a good day
Indeed it works, it is necessary to create for each device or group of devices an “on” scenario and a “off” scenario with a significant name (for example: living room light) in smartlife, then search for devices by Alexa which actually discovers new scenes that you can order by saying Alexa followed by the significant name (for example: Alexa start living room light)
If you have used the gateway with the Lidl Home app before, this is normal. I think he reset the gateway. It has no pairing button.
Hello,
Compatible except SNZB01!
Good to know, thank you for the feedback… 🙂