Because sometimes putting connected bulbs everywhere is a financial pit, or quite simply impossible (not the right socket, not the right light output ...), there is a choice alternative: connected switches wall or recessed. They have been around for some time now, but many are incompatible with French installations without neutral.
We will therefore help you make the right choice through 5 points to take into account before any purchase.
1 - With or without neutral?
With a few exceptions (old house, etc.), you do not have no neutral in your switches for safety reasons. Neutral will reach the bulb but not the switch. You may be tempted to pull a neutral from an outlet or from your board, but we don't recommend it for obvious safety and insurance reasons. If you still want to do it, see what can be done with a professional.
If you have a neutral, you will have no difficulty finding a connected switch in that case. But be careful that the amperage, frequency and voltage correspond to our installations because they are often made for foreign countries. We have tested the Earthsmart KS-611 orZemi tactile connected switchsmart WF-WS01 but there are many others.
If you don't have a neutral, the first possibility is to use a SONOFF type switch, Meross, Zemismart… They will be placed in a ceiling light and will therefore be invisible without having to change your installation.
But now it's easier and easier to find switches without neutral. They look a lot like roller shutter switches with their tactile glass front. Again, take care that the voltage and frequency are in accordance with our facilities, and get started! But beware, there are subtleties in the connections.
2 - Look at the type of connection
Some switches connected without neutral have the particularity of having to also install a capacitor at the level of the bulbs to be controlled. This is the case with some Zemismart for example. The purpose of this small device is to prevent your bulbs from staying lit at a minimum, even off, or from blinking. The advantage is that you can use them with any type of lighting. But it is necessary to provide access to the arrival of the neutral at the level of the bulbs.
Others are now able to do without this, which is easier to implement. However, they may not be compatible with all types of lighting. Take a good look at the specs because usually fluorescent lights are the problem. We had done tests with LEDs and halogens without any problem with theZemi connected switch without neutralsmart.
Also pay attention to the shape of the terminal block. Some are square and that can be a problem.
Also pay attention to the wattage or load capacity of the switch. It is generally between 200 and 300 W per channel. So watch what you plug in so as not to exceed this power. We are talking about a channel because there are switches with one, two or three ways. Which is convenient in several ways that we will all see later.
And there is a last type of connection which is… wireless! Yes, you are finding more and more wireless switches, but exclusively in ZigBee. However, they are not real switches but more remote controls which will allow you to turn on or off connected bulbs or switches
3 - The type of internet connectivity
As with all connected objects, you will find two types of connectivity :
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- The ZigBee protocol. For these, you need a dedicated hub which will connect to the network and itself will take care of connecting ZigBee devices. There are connected switches that work with various Hubs but we have not yet seen one that can be connected directly to a apparatus Amazon Echo and going up in Alexa or Google Assistant. On the other hand, it works with Hubs Smart Life or proprietary hubs like Philips Hue. The advantage is that these switches work without a capacitor. The battery allows them not to need power input from the network and the low consumption of ZigBee gives them an autonomy of about 2 years.
4 - The application to control it
The connected switches can be driven by Smart Life for the most part, but also by third-party applications from manufacturers. The choice will depend on the brand purchased and its connectivity. Wi-Fi switches will work with Tuya / Smart Life for the vast majority. This is a plus because you can integrate them into scenarios and routines on your voice assistants. If you opt for switches, some are compatible Smart Life but not all, on the contrary (Meross has its own application, just like SONOFF). In either case, they will be Compatible Amazon Alexa and Google Assistant.
The ZigBee switches will be compatible with the application of the manufacturer of the gateway used, but also for many with Smart Life. There are a few Philips Hue compatible models, but often at a prohibitive price, like theZigBee NodOn switch. For the ecosystem Xiaomi Home automation, you will find more affordable models such as Aqara wireless switches. For these brands, these are wireless switches, so more or less remote controls.
In any case, for a brand you don't know, make sure the app is available and compatible with your voice assistant. In other words, that a skill is also present on the French store in order to use it with Alexa, or that it works well with Google Assistant for your Google Home devices.
5 - What we can not do and surprises ...
Most of the time, a connected flush switch will only turn the lights on and off. Certain references with neutral may allow variation in light intensity, such as the Konyks Interi. On the other hand, there are good things to do if you buy 2 or 3 way switches and only one is plugged in. Let us leave aside the channel used which will allow you to control the light connected directly, but also to the voice (we refer you to our different tutorials and home automation tests).
Where it gets interesting is that unused channels are not unusable! You can, via Smart Life, attach a channel to a connected bulb or a connected switch and turn it on remotely. You can also create a scenario and trigger that scenario with the push of the button, like turning everything off in a house suddenly or whatever comes to mind. And this whether for the Wi-Fi or ZigBee switches, provided that all the devices to be controlled are on the same application. You can then bring up the scenario under Alexa or in Google Assistant.
You will not be able to change the colors of your bulbs over Wi-Fi, but you can set your switch to turn it ON at certain times and vice versa. In ZigBee, on the other hand, the possibilities are much more numerous since you can assign colors, intensities, or even control everything with the new Aqara tactile switches.
Which connected switch to choose?
Following our numerous tests of connected switches, some obviously stand out. The good news is that there is something for every budget. Remember to take a good look at which application (s) it will work with before purchasing, but all of the models below can be purchased with your eyes closed.
Hello, I have followed your advice in the past and bought Zeni switchessmart without neutral with capacitor. I'm very happy with it, you have to know that the capacitor discharges from time to time, causing a flash of light when they are off which can be quite surprising the first times! On the other hand, I have a lot of back and forth switches at home. Are there any connected switches compatible with this operation?
Hello Cedric,
Thank you for this feedback! 🙂
Coming back and forth is always a bit of a problem. The solution may be to opt for the ZigBee, but you obviously need a hub for that. In this case, it is more about remote controls than inter, but it allows great flexibility. To stay on Tuya / Smart Life, the Earthsmart is a great choice.
Otherwise, there is the micromodule option, I am thinking in particular of the Sonoff Mini which allows that, but you need a neutral.
Have a good day
For my part, after various research, not having a neutral wire and that back and forth I realized that the micro module corresponded more to my use, after yes it is necessary to change all the back and forth by wireless, I I turned to the Legrands with Netatmo, a little expensive yes
Bonjour David,
Absolutely, micromodules are very interesting in this case. Some require neutral nevertheless, but as you point out those of Legrand with Netatmo are logically perfectly suited to French installations. 🙂
Have a good day
For micro-modules, you can look at YOKIS whose range is very complete, some devices allow in particular back and forth.
Network connectivity nevertheless requires the installation of a hub which serves as an RF bridge.
The budget is reasonable (considering the quality and the guarantees of the material).
Fabian
Hello, very interesting tutorial.
I have installed "sonoff" switches with neutral, but I have a problem, they turn on by themselves. Have you ever encountered this problem?
Thank you in advance.
Hello,
No, it's quite surprising to tell the truth ... Look at the side of the default status, it is possible that a loss of network forces them to go "on". However, you may have the opposite problem afterwards, make sure you have a stable and powerful enough Wi-Fi.
Have a good week 🙂
Hello,
I have a little problem… I am very interested in Zemi wireless and neutral switchessmart that you proposed to Cédric who works in ZigBee. I already have a ZigBee hub. My question is: what can I connect as material on the lamp which is precisely in zigbee? I looked at your "Sonoff mini" but it's wifi
cordially
PS: I take this opportunity to congratulate you on your site, you are my bible regarding Alexa and home automation.
Hello Hokuto and thanks for the comment.
There are ZigBee switches at Zemismart. We have tested a few that work very well.
No no, that's not my question. Let me explain my situation. I have 2 switches connected back and forth for a light, of course without neutral. On one of the switches I have a double button for 2 different lights. What I'm looking for is a zigbee "switch" that I would plug into the overhead light of one of the lights and that I would order from the wireless switch and / or alexa and / or smartphone.
Having said that, is it possible?
Hello, I have a bluetooth led ceiling light and I would like to connect it to Google home. By putting a SONOFF type switch will it work?
Hi,
Yes, absolutely, it is an economical solution but, beware, you will only have the on / off management… You are talking about Bluetooth, what are your bulbs?
Hello, It is possible to manage a zigbee switch by the switches but on the condition that they are in both cases on the same Zigbbe "network".
On the other hand, it would require switches serving only as remote control, with a routine which will be activated by pressing on it. Because if they are connected normally, they will behave like standard switches, cutting the current. And that will come in addition to what the Switch will do.
This is a complete LED ceiling light with an integrated bluetooth speaker controlled by the Ilamp app
Good evening, can I ask for help? My situation is as follows: I have a 2 gang manual switch so to turn on 2 different lamps. Behind the switch come 4 wires (2 oranges and 2 others blue). I bought a Smart 2 gang touch light switch with L, L1 and L3 behind as only connections. How will I be able to make the connections? thank you so much
I also have the capacitor in addition
Hello,

It's hard to tell you like that, but your connection reminds us of this:
Hello,
1 question: can you turn on your lights from another switch? In which case you would be back and forth. thank you for your comeback
Good evening, no it's not a back and forth. Thanks 🙂. It's 2 buttons that turn on 2 different lights
I'm sorry because I can't embed a photo here 🙂
Thank you very much for answering my problem. I only have 3 L, L1 and L3 connections. I don't have a 1, neither 2, nor L2
Try the following: in principle terminals L1 and L3 must each be connected to a light. The L is the arrival of your phase. When to neutral which is necessary, you must have an N terminal on your smart Touch.
Your switch should look like this no: https://www.amazon.fr/Sonoff-T1-Smart-Interrupteur-commutateur-Royaume-Uni/dp/B07T4NVKKM?th=1
If this is the case you have a branching model on the link in the small photos. In this case, if your colors are good, the 2 blues are probably to be put on the same terminal. Oranges on L1 and L3 but that means there are going to be missing wires.
In other words, in my humble opinion, your installation does not have all the required wires like at home, to install this type of switch without adding additional cables.
Hello, I installed a Wifi switch with touchscreen glass, then connected the supplied capacitor. There are 4 GU10 LEDs behind. Everything works perfectly, but I wonder about the slight "hissing" of the capacitor once the spotlights are on. Is this normal? Thank you for your reply.
Hi,
Normal, yes and no, but it is frequent. Obviously, everything depends on the installation or even the sensitivity of the ear of each. 😉
Hello,
I ordered a switch without neutral Zemismart after reading these lines (thank you).
I'm trying to flash it with ESPhome but apparently can't get it into programming mode (I tried GPIO0-GND).
Do you have the solution?
Thank you for your work.
Hello Bruno,
Unfortunately we have not tried on this model, but it is indeed sufficient to put GPIO0 and GND in contact for 2 to 4 seconds during start-up. If the LED is flashing, you have to start over.
Good luck ! 😉
Hello,
I installed Sonoff basic and Slampher on a Numéricable wifi network. Numéricable was working very poorly and I took the fiber from Free. By changing operator I needed and wifi network, I had to reconfigure everything.
Oh surprise, there is no factory reset on the Sonoffs. I would have had to change the configuration when I still had Numericable.
Does anyone have a solution?
Thank you for your answers.
Hello,
There is a reset mode on Sonoff. You must first remove the devices from your app, then you must press and hold the button for more than 5 seconds. The LED will then flash twice and then again. Then you can pair it again in AP mode.
Have a good day
Hello!
Thank you very much for this article. As usual, this page is an excellent source to convince yourself to switch your house to home automation.
I break my head at these times because I'm not sure if Aqara's classic switches would work with my installation. I'm trying my luck by asking the question here.
Indeed, it's simple, my lights are dimmable LED spots, which I operate with the same push-button switch which is itself connected to a Yokis remote controller (MTV model). I'm just wondering if changing the push switch for an Aqara switch would do the trick? Do I have to remove the Remote controller? How do I keep my bulbs able to vary in intensity with an Aqara switch?
Thank you very much for your help, hoping to find an answer here!
cordially
Daniel
Hello, here is my situation:
I would like to switch the main lamp in my living room to connected but it is connected to 3 switches in my house.
The problem is that since there are children at home, they use the switches (they don't have smartphone at their age).
I thought about installing a wireless switch on a connected bulb but it forces them to always go to the same place to turn on / off which is not terribly for them who are used to the three switches.
I then thought of putting a connected switch in place of one of the 3 switches so as not to change their habits, but from what I read it is not easy ...
These are three simple push-button switches, but the house is recent (2007) so I don't think I have a neutral ...
What do you recommend in my case?
Thank you !
Hello everyone, my whole home is connected and I wanted to test a connected switch as well. However once the association phase is over, I can turn off the voice (via alexa ) or by hand the light but after the diode of the switch does not come on again, ditto for the voice it is like this disconnected from the wifi, Do you have an idea on the cause?
I put the link here of the switch in question:
https://fr.aliexpress.com/item/4000826128727.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.4c9d6c37XwACOI
thank you in advance
Hello,
Do you have a neutral wire? Because this switch requires one.
Hello Lapendule,
I see two possibilities:
- put a bulb connected and do not use the switches (just by voice, which may be easier for your children),
- put all the switches in connected without neutral. They are found everywhere on the internet now.
Hello Jean Christophe,
In fact, I have made good progress since this question: 3 switches for a bulb it was necessarily a remote switch, so I directly replaced the remote switch on the electrical panel, problem solved 😉
hello to all me too I go through a remote control switch. 3 access point for a light point. you say you have directly replaced the remote control switch ok but with what or how? Thank you Best regards
Hello everybody
We are having our house built, so we have planned the installation of neutral wire in all the switches to be able to install zigbee connected switches everywhere (I have theAmazon Echo 4 with integrated hub), only we have back and forth switches all over the place. What do you recommend as a zigbee switch with a neutral wire?
Hello, I bought a connected switch with neutral connection, unfortunately I noticed that I had no neutral on my old switch I saw that it was possible to add a capacitor at the connection level of the bulb my concern I am looking for the reference model of the capacitor thank you in advance for your answer
Hello,
Great article but I still have a question, I have a wall switch (which I think does not have a neutral), which manages ten spot bulbs in the ceiling light, suddenly either I change all the bulbs ( and I pay a kidney) or I make my switch become connected to control it with Alexa
I have a Philips Hue box, is there a solution without having to buy a sync box just for this switch?
Hello,
Not all switches support a capacitor ... It is better to buy one that already has one. 🙂
Hi
I think a Sonoff Basic module would do just fine.
Hello and thank you for all this valuable information.
You write "unused channels are not unusable!" You can, via Smart Life, attach a channel to a connected bulb or a connected switch and turn it on remotely. "
Do you have the details of how to proceed somewhere? Thanks again !
Hello,
The idea is in fact to call up scenarios on these routes ... You will find more information here: https://www.lesalexiens.fr/tutoriels/tutoriel-comment-dompter-smart-life-le-couteau-suisse-de-la-maison-connectee/#rb-Les-scnarios
Have a good day
Hi
I have 2 two-way switches that control the same bulb and I'm looking to automate everything either by a wifi module to be integrated into one of the 2 switches or replace them with wifi-connected switches. But I can't find anything. Do you have any suggestions?
thank you in advance
Fuji
Hello,
First of all, our apologies for the delay, but your comment unfortunately ended up in our spam.
I hope you have found an answer elsewhere since, but I am thinking of the very effective Sonoff Mini to solve your problem. We haven't talked about it on the site (yet), but I personally use one on a back-and-forth trip and it's effective as well as reliable. 😉
Have a good day
Hi
I have in my living room a switch (very simple) which lights led bulbs on the ceiling (8). I don't want any variation just to be able to light up my living room vocally with Alexa. I don't think I have a neutral. I'm having trouble figuring out what type of switch I need…. What do you recommend ?
Thanking you in advance
Hello Fred,
There are plenty of models using various protocols: EnOcean, Z-Wave, ZigBee, Wi-Fi... In your case, if you are only looking for one for now, the best is probably Wi-Fi which will not require a gateway.
You can find Tuya models using the app Smart Life like this Zemismart without neutral: https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_A0UghR
Or this one sold under another brand (it's the same): https://amzn.to/3HOyGh4
But our favorite is that of Chacon, the very efficient and discreet Dio Rev-Light tested here.
Have a good weekend 🙂